Thoughts on Robert Quinn’s Contract Extension with the Rams

The numbers are now in for the Rams star Defensive End Robert Quinn and it’s a very interesting contract that I think benefits both sides. First let us go over the particulars of the contract. Quinn receives a signing bonus worth $4,776,774 to go along with a guaranteed base salary of $608,608 (prorated from a base rate of $646,646) and a guaranteed roster bonus in 2015 of $10,233,201.  That brings Quinn’s full guarantee to $15,618,583.  The reason for the small bonus and salary in 2014 is likely to maintain a near identical salary cap charge as the Rams are right up against the salary cap this year, though in general the Rams are not a team big on the signing bonus.

In 2015 Quinn has a base salary that will become fully guaranteed that is worth $5,555,555 (yes in case you were wondering the Rams made sure to get every palindrome reference possible in this contract). For all realistic purposes this is guaranteed. In 2016 and 2017 his base salaries are $7,777,777 and $6,161,616 and can become guaranteed if on the roster at the start of that League Year. There are also roster bonuses of $2,424,242 and $3,633,363 that will also be guaranteed. His cash salary in 2018 and 2019 is $11,444,412 and $12,932,332.

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The contract is closer to what I believed JJ Watt would have signed with the Texans in that the player is probably undervalued in terms of production but the window is open for another mega-contract in a few years which comes with the shorter term extension. The guarantee package for Quinn is decent with the early vesting roster bonuses helping protect his salary. I think these are all benefits for the player. The Rams get Quinn essentially on their terms (minimal signing bonus, vesting guarantees, contract flexibility) and I think at a bargain price, all things considered.

In the following chart I compare the new money in Quinn’s contract to that received by other players who signed extensions this year. Those players are JJ Watt, Patrick Peterson, Richard Sherman, and Joe Haden. Since Quinn’s contract is 4 years I just want to look at the 4 year values to compare apples to apples.  For players with two years remaining under contract, such as Quinn, I consider the first two years as year -1 and year 0 of the contract. Year 1 is when the extension kicks in. The colors represent the likelihood of earning the salary with a green essentially meaning it’s a virtual certainty, yellow meaning the player has to maintain a solid level of play, and red meaning the player will need to be at a high level to continue the contract.

Robert Quinn Salary

You can see the favorable structure, from the Rams perspective, of the deal with Quinn compared to some of the other players. Despite the higher annual value on the contract Quinn will trail all but Sherman in terms of new money made during the original contract years and in the first year of the contract. By year 2 Quinn will trail all of the newly signed cornerbacks in earnings, a trend that continues through year 3. By year 4 he will pull ahead of Sherman and barely ahead of Haden.

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Because of the low signing bonus in the contract Id would consider Quinn’s earning potential to be less than the corners just based on contract structure. That does not mean he will not get there, but he will basically have each year of his contract tied solely to his performance on the field. Though the early vesting roster bonus is a nice addition for Quinn the Rams have already set a precedent through the release of Cortland Finnegan that the bonus will not be a barrier to release.

For the other pass rushers looking for new contracts Quinn’s deal is probably a major disappointment Once teams get past the annual value of the contract, there is not much there besides potential guarantees on a relatively short term extension. The contract by no means built on the Watt contract that way the cornerback contracts, which all shattered the existing market, built upon each other. More importantly it also did not advance the market beyond what already existed.

Why do I say that?  Lets look at this contract compared to the extension signed by Clay Matthews in 2013 (he had one year remaining) and new contract signed by Charles Johnson in 2011. Both were signed at a time when the salary cap was significantly lower and neither as productive as Quinn.

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Granted these players had varying degrees of leverage (Quinn by far had the least), but the effective impact is that his contract is not all that different than what already existed in the NFL. I do think that brings up the major question of if it is truly beneficial for the player to be looking for a contract extension so quickly when the team holds all the leverage. That was another point I discussed in the Watt contract that a player is going to give a discount in these spots, the question is just how much. Johnson gave up none because he was going to be a free agent. Matthews had one year left. Quinn had two.

Matthews does have $500,000 per year tied to games active which Quinn does not which does make Quinn’s contract structure more player friendly, but overall Matthews seemed to get the stronger and more secure contract. It just does not have the upside value, if all things are equal and the players continue to be strong. I have to think if Quinn gets through the 15 remaining games his contract would have shattered the Matthews one.

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I’d say that this also sends the message to the other rushers (and rookie contract guys too) that the Watt contract may be looked at as an aberration. The Texans did not do much to utilize their leverage in that case and seemed to give in on a number of key parameters. Maybe that did not do as much to change the market as I had thought.

The Rams were likely not coming close to the Mario Williams/Watt numbers which is probably what helped lead to this contract.  It’s the same approach I thought would happen in Houston where the compromise would be a high valued contract but for a shorter term. In that respect this is a very good contract for the player. Johnson and Matthews do give up years of free agency for those big initial cash flows. Quinn does not and if he maintains exceptional levels of play he will cash in again and likely get close to Watts numbers over the same time period, especially if the salary cap keeps inflating. The other two are stuck at figures agreed upon years before.

For that reason I’d classify the contract as a good deal for both sides, but by no means is this a game changer. It’s really just opening a door for large cash flows on the front end of a short term contract rather than forcing a player into a longer term deal, which backend years are rarely seen from a practical perspective but could hinder a player if he maintains high levels of play for his career.

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NFL Stock Down: Week 1

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Every Monday during the season we will take a look back at three players who are entering important stages of their contract that may have hurt their stock in upcoming negotiations with their play on Sunday. In addition we will also look at one player signed in the offseason to a new contract that did not live up to the expectations that his contract sets for the player.

Stock Down

Robert Quinn– The other day I said that Quinn had a great chance at becoming the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, but that is going to hinge on sacking the QB and he wasn’t doing that on Sunday. The Rams defense was embarrassed and its hard to make a case that you should get paid at this high level when your defense allows over 30 points with you on the field. In general I think the Rams are just bad starters so I’d expect better from him and the team next week, but he cant have many of these games if he wants that big deal.

Brian Orakpo– I’ve been a somewhat big Brian Orakpo supporter, much more so than most Redskins fans it seems. But Orakpo was non-existent in the loss against the Texans, and it’s his reputation for disappearing in games that has people questioning being paid highly on a long term extension. Orakpo played 52 snaps, recorded two tackles, 0 sacks and 0 pressures. That’s not the game that gives you a multi year $10+ million a year extension.

Marques Colston– It’s rare that a player records more than 100 yards in a game and gets put in this category, but I find Colston’s situation very unique. The Saints are in a salary cap squeeze starting next year and Colston is one of the few players that can be released for cap considerations. The team has a number of receivers to potentially replace him and he needs to be perfect to keep that job. Colston was credited with two dropped passes on the day and had the critical fumble that set the Falcons up to win the game. Thats not the perfection needed to stay on the Saints.

New Contract Disappointment Of The Week

Maurice Jones-Drew– FWIW, Alex Smith deserves this just as much, but I thought I would go with a free agent rather than an extension for this week. Jones-Drew is attempting to revitalize a career that has looked to be dead for the last two seasons. It still looks dead. Jones-Drew finished the day with 9 carries for 11 yards, 12 of which came late in a game that was more or less decided. I have no clue why the Raiders thought he could be a feature back in an offense, but a few more like this and its the end of a career. With a young inexperienced QB at the helm the Raiders will need much more from Jones-Drew in the future.

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Stock Up: Week 16

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Every Monday during the season we will take a look back at three players who are entering important stages of their contract that may have helped their stock in upcoming negotiations with their play on Sunday. In addition we will also look at one player signed in the offseason to a new contract that exceeded all expectations and provided exceptional value to his team.

Stock Up

Greg Hardy– Hardy registered 3 sacks against the Saints and had Drew Brees showing the look of fear on more plays than not. Hardy has 11 sacks on the season and with a great crop of young pass rushers all eligible for new contracts its going to be a race to see who gets the most money in the new pass rushing marketplace. The Panthers don’t really have the cap space to franchise him and carry him on that tag for any period of time and he has a teammate already making wild money that he will use as a starting point in negotiations. With the playoffs coming up he has a chance to earn some big money.

Robert Quinn– Another 3 sack game for Quinn, who now has five multi-sack games on the season and three games with three sacks. He has 18 sacks on the season, dominates the competition, and seems to make this list every week. The one thing he does not have going for him that Hardy does is the fact that he is not a free agent next season, while Hardy is. Quinn is extension eligible which gives a bit more leverage to the Rams when working out a contract with him. Still this is going to be a race to crown the highest paid player and one likely playing leapfrog over the other.

Andy Dalton– I’ve given up trying to figure Dalton out. He is all over the map this season but he sure did tear it up against the Vikings. Dalton threw for 4 touchdowns and 366 yards on the day. I don’t know what the Bengals really do here. The team is good enough to win it all, perhaps even this season, which could leave Dalton getting a Joe Flacco like contract. Of course the bad Dalton is going to leave you stuck with a Matt Schaub type contract if you extend early. Big decision is looming for the Bengals here.

 

New Contract Player Of The Week

Julian Edelman– Edelman could really go in either category since his contract was just a one year deal, but imagine where the Patriots offense would be without him?  In a season of injuries and turnover at the position, Edelman has been the lone steady force out there. On Sunday he racked up another 7 receptions for 77 yards and he is going to surpass 1,000 yards on the season. Not too bad for a player with incentives for just low level of catches since nobody expected much from him. I’m not sure if the Patriot “system” has watered down the value of their players following flops of players like Deion Branch, Randy Moss, and David Givens over the past decade once they left the Patriots, but Edelman is one of the best values at his position this year and will likely earn a low level number 2 type deal next season.

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Stock Up: Week 10

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Every Monday during the season we will take a look back at three players who are entering important stages of their contract that may have helped their stock in upcoming negotiations with their play on Sunday. In addition we will also look at one player signed in the offseason to a new contract that exceeded all expectations and provided exceptional value to his team.

Stock Up

Robert Quinn– It was another dominating performance for Quinn as he made life miserable on Andrew Luck and the Colts. Quinn notched another two sacks bringing his total to 12 on the season with 6 games to go. Quinn will be eligible for an extension this offseason and the Rams general nature has been to lock up their talent sooner rather than later. St Louis has overspent on a number of players in recent years and that should all work in Quinn’s favor. The Rams do own his rights for the next two years but should be able to cash in if he keeps this level of play up.

Golden Tate– Entering the final year of his rookie contract Tate needed to have a quality season to find a decent contract somewhere. From a personal standpoint the stars aligned in his favor with Percy Harvin being injured before the season began and Sidney Rice being banged up most of the year before landing on season ending IR. He has made good with his chances and had a terrific 106 yard performance in the Seahawks wipeout of the Falcons on Sunday. Tate is on pace to shatter his previous career highs and has put up at least 75 yards in three of his last four games. He was considered a lame duck in Seattle but with their cap being tight and his growth as a player he may sneak himself into a nice second tier WR contract with Seattle.

Andre Brown– I don’t know how much this game really means in the grand scheme of things but it had to be such a personal triumph for Brown that I wanted to include him here. After another crushing injury the Giants rode Brown like an old school featured running back who led the team to the win against the Oakland Raiders. Brown, playing on his RFA contract, carried the ball 30 times for 115 yards and gave the Giants an offensive identity that they lacked all season. I can’t imagine that this was in the cards either, but following a fumble by Peyton Hillis and a costly turnover by Eli Manning the Giants lost confidence in those two and went to Brown to make sure the team did not lose the game off bad offensive mistakes.

New Contract Player Of The Week

Reggie Bush– Bush has pretty much the perfect fit for the Lions offense this season. When teams overcompensate for the pass Bush is right there to pick up big yards against the defense. He provides a steady safety valve in the passing game when the coverage is there down the field. Hes versatile enough to play every down if he has to. I never thought Bush would be this impressive but this is everything people assumed he would be in New Orleans years ago. Yesterday Bush went off for 105 yards on just 14 carries including close to 30 yards on the drive that really won the game for the Lions.

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